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TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August
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Subject: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-12 4:48 AM (#12247) (#12247) Top


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Tapa Variations Contest XIII

Date: 17th - 19th August 2013

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XIII/
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-13 1:45 AM (#12266 - in reply to #12247) (#12266) Top



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wow looking forward to it
a much awaited.
Infact i will also be waiting for CTC. :)
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-14 11:26 AM (#12298 - in reply to #12247) (#12298) Top



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Looking forward to this test.
One quick question. Will this be LMI rated event?

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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-14 12:05 PM (#12301 - in reply to #12298) (#12301) Top





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rajeshk - 2013-08-14 11:26 AM
Looking forward to this test.One quick question. Will this be LMI rated event?

If I am not incorrect, this is not LMI rated contest because TVC is an annual contest.

Regards,
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 12:39 AM (#12318 - in reply to #12247) (#12318) Top



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In Tapa Borderline,
if there are two clues on border then is it necessary that both should go in either of 1 cell or is it possible that each clue go in one cell each ?
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 12:48 AM (#12319 - in reply to #12318) (#12319) Top


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In Tapa Borderline,
if there are two clues on border then is it necessary that both should go in either of 1 cell or is it possible that each clue go in one cell each ?


Both should go in one cell. Multiple digits are considered as a whole "clue" and they move together.
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Subject: RE: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 1:07 AM (#12320 - in reply to #12247) (#12320) Top


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Some practice material for TVC XIII

1. TAPA LOGIC:
- http://www.logic-masters.de/Raetselportal/Raetsel/zeigen.php?id=000...
- http://oapc.wpc2009.org/download.php?id=101
- http://mellowmelon.wordpress.com/2012/05/09/puzzle-400-tapa-cipher/

3. Tapa Islands
- http://oapc.wpc2009.org/download.php?id=107
- http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=TVC6
- http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2011/10/puzzle-42-tapa-islands.h...
- http://forum.ukpuzzles.org/download/file.php?id=389

4. Make Room for Pentapa
- http://motris.livejournal.com/163978.html
- http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/12/puzzle-148-tapa-make-roo...

5. Pata
- http://forum.ukpuzzles.org/download/file.php?id=389
- http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2013/01/27/puzzle-68-pata/
- http://oapc.wpc2009.org/download.php?id=98

6. Tapa Borderline
- http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/06/puzzle-116-tapa-borderli...

7. Tapa Loop
- http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/puzzle-43-tapa-loop/
- http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201207P
- http://forum.ukpuzzles.org/download/file.php?id=389

8. Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors]
- http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/06/23/puzzle-no-177-tapa...
- http://prasannaseshadri.wordpress.com/2012/09/08/puzzle-208-210-bos...

9. Tapa Hamle
- http://oapc.wpc2009.org/download.php?id=98
- http://oapc.wpc2009.org/download.php?id=101

10. No Squares Tapa
- http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/02/tvc-ix-practise.html
- http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=TVC9
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 1:07 AM (#12321 - in reply to #12247) (#12321) Top




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In the rules for Tapa Loop, it states that the loop cannot touch itself - is diagonal touching allowed, as in the example?
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 1:19 AM (#12322 - in reply to #12321) (#12322) Top


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drsteve - 2013-08-15 1:07 AM

In the rules for Tapa Loop, it states that the loop cannot touch itself - is diagonal touching allowed, as in the example?


Actually, before publising IB, I read the instructions, when I got the "touch" in the rules of Tapa Loop, I thought it is not necessary. Because the loop in fact can touch itself. But this "touch" is not that "touch". Tapa Loop "touch" means loop cannot pass through in any cell twice.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 3:10 AM (#12323 - in reply to #12319) (#12323) Top



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yureklis - 2013-08-15 12:48 AM

swaroop2011

In Tapa Borderline,
if there are two clues on border then is it necessary that both should go in either of 1 cell or is it possible that each clue go in one cell each ?


Both should go in one cell. Multiple digits are considered as a whole "clue" and they move together.


ok thanks :)
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 9:07 AM (#12326 - in reply to #12322) (#12326) Top


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yureklis - 2013-08-15 1:19 AM


Actually, before publising IB, I read the instructions, when I got the "touch" in the rules of Tapa Loop, I thought it is not necessary. Because the loop in fact can touch itself. But this "touch" is not that "touch". Tapa Loop "touch" means loop cannot pass through in any cell twice.


If that is the case, instead of "cross or touch", "cross or overlap" is probably a more common description as used in other loop types.
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Subject: RE: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-15 12:22 PM (#12329 - in reply to #12247) (#12329) Top



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Obligatory practice puzzle for Neanderthal Tapa because this post doesn't have any.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-16 12:03 AM (#12336 - in reply to #12329) (#12336) Top


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"Fresh" Practice Puzzle from me as well, Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors].
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-16 8:34 PM (#12342 - in reply to #12247) (#12342) Top



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"All puzzle points will be announced in Friday." Do we get to know it soon?
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-16 8:39 PM (#12343 - in reply to #12342) (#12343) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2013-08-16 8:34 PM

"All puzzle points will be announced in Friday." Do we get to know it soon?


Probably 2-3 hours later
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-17 1:47 AM (#12346 - in reply to #12247) (#12346) Top


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PuzzlePoints
1. Tapa LOGIC120
2a. Neanderthal38
2b. Neanderthal89
3. Tapa Islands108
4. Make Room for Pentapa69
5a. Pata39
5b. Pata117
6. Tapa Borderline42
7a. Tapa Loop45
7b. Tapa Loop57
8a. Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors]60
8b. Tapa [Diagonal Neighbors]81
9. Tapa Hamle99
10. No Squares Tapa36

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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-17 2:06 AM (#12347 - in reply to #12346) (#12347) Top


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Subject: RE: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-17 6:19 AM (#12348 - in reply to #12247) (#12348) Top




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For Tapa islands, may the islands touch each other diagonally?
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Subject: RE: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-17 7:18 AM (#12349 - in reply to #12348) (#12349) Top


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RALehrer - 2013-08-17 6:19 AM

For Tapa islands, may the islands touch each other diagonally?


Yes, islands can touch diagonally.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-17 7:39 AM (#12350 - in reply to #12247) (#12350) Top


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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-17 3:15 PM (#12352 - in reply to #12247) (#12352) Top


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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-18 8:26 AM (#12358 - in reply to #12247) (#12358) Top




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Stupid cell. Why'd I colour you? And why exactly there? Thanks for the puzzles Serkan. I had fun, except for a horrible false start on the first Pata.

ps. Palmer, dial it back a little.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-18 10:13 AM (#12359 - in reply to #12247) (#12359) Top



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One question on Tapa Islands
Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell?
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-18 2:15 PM (#12361 - in reply to #12359) (#12361) Top



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yureklis - 2013-08-18 11:00 AM

rajeshk - 2013-08-18 10:13 AM

One question on Tapa Islands
Instructions says that "each separate area MAY contain at most one clue cell". Does this mean that there may be some Island area without any clue cell?


No, each island should have one clue cell. MAY should be changed to Should in the instruction.


Thanks for quickly clarifying this.
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Subject: Re: TVC XIII — 17th - 19th August @ 2013-08-18 7:14 PM (#12362 - in reply to #12361) (#12362) Top




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Wait, I thought islands could have no clue cell? When I solved it logically, I got at least one island that had no clue cell in it?
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