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Location: India | A temporary score page is available now.
Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/03P/score.asp
Please note, you can see puzzles that you have submitted. And the score page can be refreshed once in 10 minutes. |
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Location: India | Can authors see the scores for puzzles which they have created? (without having to put a dummy submission :)) |
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Location: Austria | How can I get the password? I dont´ see it anywhere. I want to open the puzzle, but I am asked to write down the password. Where is it? |
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Location: India | Manu - 2013-03-01 9:17 PM
How can I get the password? I dont´ see it anywhere. I want to open the puzzle, but I am asked to write down the password. Where is it?
Check the submission page, once you click on a puzzle, the puzzle name appears below the table with a start button. Once you start it, the timer starts and the password is displayed. |
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Location: Austria | Thank you!! I didn´t see the start button below the table. |
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Location: India | Araf and Multi Skyscrapers are uploaded. |
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Location: Turkey | Gapped Kakuro:
1. https://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/puzzle-4-gapped-kakuro/
2. http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/gapped-kakuro/
3. http://wpc.puzzles.com/uspc2012/
Watches:
1. http://www.forsmarts.com/pdf/april2010_en.pdf
Araf:
1. https://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/puzzle-14-araf/
2. https://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/06/puzzle-15-araf/
3. http://yureklis.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/araf/
Graffiti Snake:
1. http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=M201201P
2. http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/?test=SVC2011
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Location: India | I have two doubts regarding "Liar Diagonal Slitherlink" as below
1. Can I assume that all the numbers will be given for this puzzle. If not how liar square will be decided among no hint squares?
2. For the liar Square can the number of edges used be equal to given number if we don't count diagonal connection. e.g for a liar square having 2 can put link like Z i.e. using two edge excluding diagonal?
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Location: India | rajeshk - 2013-03-02 12:54 PM
I have two doubts regarding "Liar Diagonal Slitherlink" as below
1. Can I assume that all the numbers will be given for this puzzle. If not how liar square will be decided among no hint squares?
2. For the liar Square can the number of edges used be equal to given number if we don't count diagonal connection. e.g for a liar square having 2 can put link like Z i.e. using two edge excluding diagonal?
1. Just in response to the question part, its possible to determine the liar square. Due to the all rows and columns need to have exactly one liar constraint, even if there's just one clue in a row or column, that clue has to be a liar, or of course there's say just 2 clues and you prove one is right while solving. For example, the Liar Slitherlink in the IPC did not have all clues given, and I guess the striking out the liar part doesn't change the possibility of a Liar being determined.
2. No. The square once determined as a liar, has to be wrong. |
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Location: India | Thanks Prasanna for your quick reply. I was trying to create one puzzle of this type and these doubts came in my mind. Thanks once again for clarifying these doubts.
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Location: United States | So if I take more than an hour I can't submit an answer? For multi-skyscrapers I see a red X. I cannot find errors in my solution.
Thanks,
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Location: United States | never mind I finally found my error. very difficult to proofread |
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Location: United States | So I feel stupid now. Got myself massively stuck on one puzzle, and blew an entire 4.5 hours on an "easy" one. Finally cracked it, but it did raise a question. Is there a way to abandon a solve that you just don't think you'll ever complete? I couldn't find a way to move on and try a different one, so I was stuck using my entire day's time banging my head against a faulty bit of logic. |
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Location: India | FoxFireX - 2013-03-03 5:02 AM
So I feel stupid now. Got myself massively stuck on one puzzle, and blew an entire 4.5 hours on an "easy" one. Finally cracked it, but it did raise a question. Is there a way to abandon a solve that you just don't think you'll ever complete? I couldn't find a way to move on and try a different one, so I was stuck using my entire day's time banging my head against a faulty bit of logic. Certainly there is a way and many players have done that.
Just that you have to wait for one hour. When you go to the submission page after an hour, all other puzzles will be enabled to be started. (Just wanted to clarify that the "one hour constraint" was added so that players don't start 2 puzzles at the same time by mistake and lose potential bonus) |
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Location: United States | Administrator - 2013-03-02 6:11 PM
Certainly there is a way and many players have done that.
Just that you have to wait for one hour. When you go to the submission page after an hour, all other puzzles will be enabled to be started. (Just wanted to clarify that the "one hour constraint" was added so that players don't start 2 puzzles at the same time by mistake and lose potential bonus)
Ah. So you have to actually reload the page after an hour, then? I just kept it loaded, and the other puzzles never came back as available. |
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Location: India | Watches and Fifty Fifty are uploaded. |
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Location: India | Congratulations to Hideaki, first player to finish all 12 puzzles. |
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Location: India | Update on Watches rules : Each circle should have 1, 2, 3 or 4 arrows of given lengths (as many as arrows as numbers) |
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An LMI Player with Puzzle ratings 500- | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Nanro | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Mintonette | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Maxi Loop | |
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Location: The Netherlands | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Araf | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Nanro | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Watches | | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
I had a very enjoyable weekend! As a slow puzzle solver, it was great to finish and submit answers to all the puzzles for once. In addition to the three most favorite puzzles I picked (Araf got me completely stumped for some 30 minutes, the flow of Nanro was beautiful, and I think I fell for every trap in Watches, and broke it some 20 times: well done Serkan!), I'd like to add Mintonette as a fourth for its fun layout. But all puzzles were good. Thanks to all the puzzle makers!!! |
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Location: Turkey | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Mintonette | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Nanro | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Gapped Kakuro | | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Very fair | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
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Location: United Kingdom | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Gapped Kakuro | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Fity Fifty | | | Your 3 most favorite puzzles of the contest. | Araf | | | How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | | | What is your opinion about rules, points and scoring for this test? | Bit unfair | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
To elaborate on why I voted for it being a 'slightly unfair' scoring system:
If I understand it correctly, there are bonus points for being the fastest solver of a puzzle? This is OK for some tests, but in my opinion this doesn't really make sense when combined with the other parts of the scoring system for this test- the winner gets most points anyway, they don't need any more. Imagine two people get identical times on most puzzles: except on puzzle X, person A beats B by 2 seconds, and they come 2nd and 3rd in the rankings. And on puzzle Y, person B beats A by 2 seconds, but they come first and second. In my view, they should tie overall, but if I understand the scoring for this test correctly, B will win, and I think this is slightly unfair.
But apart from that, great test, great puzzles, looking forward to next year's marathon! ;-)
Edited by Nilz 2013-03-04 3:10 AM
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Location: India | Great, I solved each puzzle within its allotted time, and no stuck-for-2-hours experiences like last year :P Having said that, would've liked to do a bit better on some puzzles. Thanks to all the other authors for some great puzzles. :) |
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Location: The Netherlands | Nilz - 2013-03-04 3:03 AM
To elaborate on why I voted for it being a 'slightly unfair' scoring system:
If I understand it correctly, there are bonus points for being the fastest solver of a puzzle? This is OK for some tests, but in my opinion this doesn't really make sense when combined with the other parts of the scoring system for this test- the winner gets most points anyway, they don't need any more. Imagine two people get identical times on most puzzles: except on puzzle X, person A beats B by 2 seconds, and they come 2nd and 3rd in the rankings. And on puzzle Y, person B beats A by 2 seconds, but they come first and second. In my view, they should tie overall, but if I understand the scoring for this test correctly, B will win, and I think this is slightly unfair.
But apart from that, great test, great puzzles, looking forward to next year's marathon! ;-)
Everyone who finishes within the alotted time gets bonus for rank, not just the fastest. So in your situation, B gets a bonus for 1st and 3rd, A gets bonus for finishing second twice. |
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Location: Canada | I really like the Maxi Loop, which I haven't seen before, but I absolutely hate the presentation. On my fourth try, I finally had to use a thick red Sharpie pen, so I could see what I was doing. Perhaps in the future it could use a smaller font for the numbers? |
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