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amitsowani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-12 1:16 AM (#214 - in reply to #211) (#214) Top



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The Instruction Booklet is available for download at the mock 16 test page.

Thanks to Deb for creating examples for 3 of the puzzles. (Minesweeper, Mastermind and Pirate Sudoku)
I also borrowed 3 puzzles from Ritesh's mock 6 (Sudokuro and Skyscraper Sudoku and the Classic Sudoku)

Unfortunately I couldnt create examples for some of the types for which I have provided links to external sources.

The Instruction Booklet also contains an Appendix (last 5 pages). This is mainly for participants who are new to logic puzzles apart from Sudoku. It is only to help you solve the Sudoku variants and they will not appear in the mock test.

Hope you have a fun mock test !!
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-12 5:44 AM (#215 - in reply to #214) (#215) Top



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Amit,

Couple of doubts with the IB.
1. Mastermind Sudoku - I thought the 5 digit code will be given. In the IB it is not.
2. The Dominos given in the appendix has no similarity with the 'Domino Sudoku'
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-12 1:46 PM (#216 - in reply to #215) (#216) Top



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@ Deb:
You are right about the Mastermind Sudoku, the code will be given in the puzzle. I forgot to enter it in the IB.

For the IB example the code is "28471"

I have not seen this puzzle type before an wanted to have a simple introductory puzzle. However in the future I think puzzle creators can choose to create puzzles without the code given, where identifying the code will be a part of the puzzle solving process.

The Dominos example is not similar to the Domino Sudoku, but that is the best introductory example I had. I have also created a separate example for Domino Sudoku which should make the rules of domino Sudoku pretty clear. More examples can be found in previous Japanese Number Place Championships.
neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 12:34 AM (#219 - in reply to #216) (#219) Top




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thanx.....I wasted so much of time indentifying the code...........but the puzzle was one star when the code was known.

One request to organisers - please see that the grid lines are marked properly in the puzzle especially the region boundaries as in Sudokuro it was difficult to identify regions as the boundaries were not bold at places.
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 12:37 AM (#220 - in reply to #219) (#220) Top



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neerajmehrotra - 2010-03-13 12:34 AM

One request to organisers - please see that the grid lines are marked properly in the puzzle especially the region boundaries as in Sudokuro it was difficult to identify regions as the boundaries were not bold at places.


Grid lines will be marked properly in the puzzle pdf and also online flash
Fred76
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 1:54 AM (#221 - in reply to #220) (#221) Top



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Amit,

Can you please tell me if in the minesweeper sudoku of IB, r9c3 shouldn't be coloured in grey? If not, can you tell me the solution, because I've done a mistake :( .

Thanks

Fred
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 6:02 AM (#222 - in reply to #221) (#222) Top



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Fred76 - 2010-03-13 1:54 AM

Amit,

Can you please tell me if in the minesweeper sudoku of IB, r9c3 shouldn't be coloured in grey? If not, can you tell me the solution, because I've done a mistake :( .

Thanks

Fred


Fred, I'd created this example, and here is the solution.

[ debmohanty edited - Corrected example after amnon pointed a mistake ]

amnon
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 6:47 AM (#223 - in reply to #179) (#223) Top




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I think you should swap r2c4-r2c5 and r8c4-r8c5, otherwise r8c3 should be grey, as Fred suggested.
amitsowani
Subject: RE: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 1:14 PM (#224 - in reply to #179) (#224) Top



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For participants who are solving online in the flash format:
In puzzles like Easy as Sudoku and Minesweeper you can use an X do to identify a blank space or a mine respectively.

For participants solving by taking printouts, enter X in the solution instead of the blanks in your answer row/columns.



debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-13 6:50 PM (#225 - in reply to #224) (#225) Top



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The puzzle booklet can be downloaded now.
cnarrikkattu
Subject: RE: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 12:53 AM (#226 - in reply to #224) (#226) Top




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does the case of the X matter ('X' vs. 'x')?
amitsowani
Subject: RE: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 3:58 AM (#227 - in reply to #226) (#227) Top



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The case of the 'X' does not matter.
zhergan
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 6:07 AM (#228 - in reply to #179) (#228) Top




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Hi,

Thanks for nice puzzles. But there must be a problem with Word Search Sudoku. After I started the mock test I took my printouts as usual and started to solve. When I opened the puzzle book pdf file I examined Word Search Sudoku and there exists only 3 given letters. One at R6C2, one at R5C5 and one at R4C8. I quickly got stuck and couldn't succeed. But when I was submitting my answers of solved ones I noticed that for this puzzle there exists 6 more givens in the flash format. I wish I had notified this earlier (when I notified this I had only 4-5 minutes to finish test) and dealt with it in flash format. Anyway thanks again for nicely designed sudokus:)

Regards,

Zafer
jcvb
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 10:55 AM (#229 - in reply to #179) (#229) Top




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can i know my score? thanks.
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 11:14 AM (#230 - in reply to #229) (#230) Top



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jcvb - 2010-03-14 10:55 AM

can i know my score? thanks.


375. in 3 Sudokus you have minor mistakes.
In Skyscraper and Domino 2 digits are swapped :-(
jcvb
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 1:32 PM (#231 - in reply to #179) (#231) Top




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...:-(
what about Piratesudoku?
jcvb
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 1:34 PM (#232 - in reply to #179) (#232) Top




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i was so careless......
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 1:45 PM (#233 - in reply to #230) (#233) Top



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@zhergan

Sorry about the error in Word Search sudoku.
I updated the Word Search Sudoku in the flash version after feedback from Rajesh that it is a little difficult to get a start in the puzzle, but forgot to update the same in the pdf version.

For all participants who are yet to particpate please take note of the update in the Word Search Sudoku Flash format.

debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 1:57 PM (#234 - in reply to #231) (#234) Top



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jcvb - 2010-03-14 1:32 PM

...:-(
what about Piratesudoku?


Piratesudoku is also wrong. 3 digits are not matching with the expected answer.
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Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 4:40 PM (#235 - in reply to #179) (#235) Top


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can i know my score?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 4:48 PM (#236 - in reply to #235) (#236) Top



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akash.doulani - 2010-03-14 4:40 PM

can i know my score?
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neerajmehrotra
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 8:16 PM (#237 - in reply to #179) (#237) Top




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To err is human...........never thought that I have committed a mistake in Sudokuru
jwilsonian
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 8:27 PM (#238 - in reply to #237) (#238) Top




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This was my first time doing this and so I have a question about the scoring. Why does it only check a few lines from the solutions entered? I noticed that I actually got the domino one wrong, but my error wasn't in the line that was checked, so it was scored correctly. Also, are we supposed to only submit certain lines, or the whole solution?
debmohanty
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 8:35 PM (#239 - in reply to #238) (#239) Top



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jwilsonian - 2010-03-14 8:27 PM

This was my first time doing this and so I have a question about the scoring. Why does it only check a few lines from the solutions entered? I noticed that I actually got the domino one wrong, but my error wasn't in the line that was checked, so it was scored correctly. Also, are we supposed to only submit certain lines, or the whole solution?


Only selected rows / columns are checked. There is button "Show cells to fill". If you click on the button, it will show the cells you need to fill.

The information used to be there in earlier booklets. Looks like we need to put it back.
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Mock Test 16 @ 2010-03-14 8:47 PM (#240 - in reply to #238) (#240) Top



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@ jwilsonian

There are many participants who solve the test by taking printouts of the puzzle pdfs
So to save their time required in submitting the answers we ask the participants to enter a few rows/columns.

These rows/ columns are generally chosen in a way that they are solved at the very end of the solving process, so in most cases you need to have solved the rest of the puzzle correctly to reach the correct solution digits.

You were lucky with the domino Sudoku :)
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