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Location: United States | The first time I encountered nonconsecutive was in a section of Japanese nanpure variants that was consecutive and then suddenly lost all the bars. It was a really fun discovery. I suppose I'm fully spoiled to get the "no dots is not a problem" experience now, but I can appreciate the comments others had on the Kropki.
One thing I've learned with making NC is that it is incredibly easy to specify just 1 puzzle but very difficult for a human to appreciate the packing constraints that give it just one solution. That's why I liked the smoothness of the NC on this test a whole lot, for doing a very limiting theme. But to show it's not impossible, these six givens form a valid 1-digit NC, but I've yet to work through the whole puzzle logically to get to the solution:
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_ _ _ | _ _ _ | 3 _ _
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Location: India | Excellent puzzles, Jakub!
Lost lot of time in "which digit is missing" because i forgot a rule that all digits on the connected green line are different; realizing it just in time.
the instructionless puzzle is still intriguing me... can anyone help in letting know the instructions?
Best regards.
Edited by harmeet 2011-05-30 12:20 PM
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Location: India | harmeet - 2011-05-30 12:18 PM
the instructionless puzzle is still intriguing me... can anyone help in letting know the instructions?
I must admit that I didn't get it for a while.
Instead of revealing the answer, let me give you a clue.
Just focus in the grid box-wise (i.e. analyze each box individually)
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Location: India | Administrator - 2011-05-30 4:49 AM
prasanna16391 - 2011-05-30 1:31 AM
Excellent puzzles, I did the silly silly idiotic mistake of putting the "Incomplete Sums" Answer key in the "X is Alive" space :( probably missed 60 points coz of that, would love to know if that answer was right. The answer is wrong by few digits :- )
Thats good to know, I guessed once towards the end knowing time was running out and I didn't want to miss submission by few seconds again  |
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Location: India | Hi,
I submitted 7 correct answers and it shows as 0/7. I sent in answers to Nonconsecutive, Kropki, Jigsaw, Toroidal, Incomplete Sums, Draw a Jigsaw and Which Digit is Missing? My user name is shreyas2k6 and I'm Shreyas for India.
Please check the same. I worked really hard on these puzzles :) |
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Location: India | shreyas2k6 - 2011-05-30 1:45 PM
Hi,
I submitted 7 correct answers and it shows as 0/7. I sent in answers to Nonconsecutive, Kropki, Jigsaw, Toroidal, Incomplete Sums, Draw a Jigsaw and Which Digit is Missing? My user name is shreyas2k6 and I'm Shreyas for India.
Please check the same. I worked really hard on these puzzles :) I thought you exactly know why you have got 0 even after submitting 7 puzzles correctly. |
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Location: India | I played to the theme of "Something is Missing" , For Instructionless -missed typing the 3 in column A answer of 249157(3)86, need to get myself a new keyboard ....
organisers can this be given a marginal benefit of doubt, rest 17 nos are in correct order
But the puzzle was the best i liked, difference was same as the box no ... nice one !!
Edited by utkaarsh 2011-05-30 1:59 PM
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Location: India | Unlike puzzle tests, in Sudoku tests we don't allow any overrides.
No points for for missing a digit OR swapping 2 digits OR typing same digits twice (all of these happen pretty regularly)
The only override we allow in Sudoku tests is row/column swaps (i.e. entering Row A digits in Row B and vice versa) OR if a given clue is typed wrongly.
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Location: Germany | I thought the puzzles were all beautiful. I particularly loved "Draw A Jigsaw".
After performing quite poorly on the test, I've since gone through and solved them all. I eventually got through all of them quite smoothly, with the exception of the toroidal sudoku, so I'm wondering if I missed an easier break-in there. Here's how I could solve it:
1. Note several immediate pairs that need to be separated (4-4-4, 9-9, 8-8).
2a. If the column separator is index 0 (before column 1), the second 4-4 forces the row separator to index 0 (so classical sudoku). But then the bottom right square can't have a 5.
2b. Column separator index 1 forces row separator index 1 by the pairs from step 1.
2c. Column separator index 2 forces row separator index 1 or 2 to separator the 9-9 pair. In row 7, the 8 can go in two places, forming two potential 8-8 pairs, none of which are separater by column index 2 or row index 1.
We're left with options (1,1) and (2,2).
3. In row four, the 1 must go in column 1 with either option.
4?. Looking at row 7, columns 7 and 8 can only contain 19 and 18, respectively. Here, I somehow deduced that these must be 9, 1, forcing option (1,1). I can't figure out this step anymore at the moment.
Cheers
Robert
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Subject: Re: Something is Missing — LMI May Sudoku Test — 28th and 29th May @ 2011-05-30 2:07 PM (#4600 - in reply to #4599)
Unlike puzzle tests, in Sudoku tests we don't allow any overrides.
No points for for missing a digit OR swapping 2 digits OR typing same digits twice (all of these happen pretty regularly)
The only override we allow in Sudoku tests is row/column swaps (i.e. entering Row A digits in Row B and vice versa) OR if a given clue is typed wrongly.
fair enough 
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Location: Germany | debmohanty - 2011-05-30 6:48 AM
120 minutes would have been more appropriate - at least couple of players could have completed, but I'm not sure.
Some of the puzzles were very hard - as I see from the score page, lots of players last submitted puzzles long time before their scheduled end time (e.g. Ulrich 23 minutes)
During these 23 minutes, I managed to break the "Draw a Jigsaw" puzzle twice - it wasn't that difficult, but placing the same digit twice in the same area surely doesn't help. I wonder how many chances I get to beat Thomas on a Sudoku contest...
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Location: India |
Got it... so easy with the clue... thanks for not sharing the instructions.
Edited by harmeet 2011-05-30 4:54 PM
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Location: United States | Could anyone please show the break-in for the Draw A Jigsaw? |
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Location: Germany | RJH0723: Let me know if this is not detailed enough.
1. Consider the 4 in the last column, and the 2 in the second to last column. Note that the 2's area can't escape to the bottom left, and deduce that there's not enough space for the 2 and 4 to be in separate areas.
2. Consider the 2 in the first row, and note that its area can't reach row four, so it needs to connect to one of the given 1s. |
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Location: United States | Thanks. I got it from there. I just needed a place to start. |
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Location: United States | Thanks for a really nice test, Gotroch. Nonconsecutive with all evens was cool, Incomplete Sums and Which Digit is Missing both had great presentation and were good puzzles in themselves, Draw a Jigsaw was really nice, etc. Definitely a hard but fun and satisfying set of puzzles! |
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Location: The Netherlands | Thanks for the puzzles. They were really nice. If I hadn't literally broken every puzzle I eventually solved, I would have gotten a lot more done. Not my best performance, but enjoyed it none the less. |
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Location: United Kingdom | I really enjoyed the non-consecutive in particular - a very satisfying "aha" moment when I realised how it worked. These moments are always best, I find, when they take more than a few seconds to arrive but less than a few minutes, and this puzzle had it just right. :) |
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