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Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January
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An LMI player
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 12:59 AM (#14073 - in reply to #14015) (#14073) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


auroux
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 6:36 AM (#14075 - in reply to #14015) (#14075) Top


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This was a fun contest! The puzzles were very nice -- but I don't think the point distribution was very good. In many cases the big puzzle barely took me any more time (if any) than the small one despite being worth a lot more points.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 2:54 PM (#14076 - in reply to #14015) (#14076) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 3:38 PM (#14077 - in reply to #14015) (#14077) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


TiiT
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 7:31 PM (#14079 - in reply to #14015) (#14079) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


krytterka
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 9:31 PM (#14080 - in reply to #14015) (#14080) Top




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Well, I don't know if this was the issue with online version only (as I did the online version and haven't downloaded the PDF) but I found mistakes in odd-even small. There were two "equations" that didn't fit my numbers in the table but afterall I submitted them (even I knew my equals are lower than the wanted ones) and it was considered right...
(my different equations were 36 (the original one in online version test - third from the right in the top row) - mine got 34; and 35 (original one - second from the bottom in the left column) - mine was 33.)
I just thought if it was a general mistake or something else.
jaku111
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-12 10:02 PM (#14081 - in reply to #14080) (#14081) Top


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krytterka - 2014-01-12 9:31 PM

Well, I don't know if this was the issue with online version only (as I did the online version and haven't downloaded the PDF) but I found mistakes in odd-even small. There were two "equations" that didn't fit my numbers in the table but afterall I submitted them (even I knew my equals are lower than the wanted ones) and it was considered right...
(my different equations were 36 (the original one in online version test - third from the right in the top row) - mine got 34; and 35 (original one - second from the bottom in the left column) - mine was 33.)
I just thought if it was a general mistake or something else.


The kakuro is considered right when you have the two marked rows or columns correct (as to pdf version when you only copy these numbers). You were lucky that your mistake was out of these rows/columns. You had probably some small mistake...
krytterka
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 12:53 AM (#14083 - in reply to #14081) (#14083) Top




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ok. Anyway, looking forward the solution sheet for this task. It was weird to me that all other additions were right and those two, even out-of-answer-line weren't.
So far, this was just a trial for me (I'm still more to sudoku than logic and this kakuro, even it is "sudoku-like"). But thanks for game and your answer.
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 5:47 AM (#14085 - in reply to #14083) (#14085) Top


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krytterka - 2014-01-13 12:53 AM

ok. Anyway, looking forward the solution sheet for this task. It was weird to me that all other additions were right and those two, even out-of-answer-line weren't.
So far, this was just a trial for me (I'm still more to sudoku than logic and this kakuro, even it is "sudoku-like"). But thanks for game and your answer.

Solution on left side and your submission on right.

Ziti
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 12:41 PM (#14088 - in reply to #14015) (#14088) Top




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Thank you very much, Matus and Jakub. Those were fun puzzles with a nice new set of rules and I really enjoyed them.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 2:16 PM (#14089 - in reply to #14015) (#14089) Top



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Awesome test, Nice puzzles, i really liked the path of solving in few puzzles
Thanks to authors and LMI for such great test.
From results i can see that i am poor at Kakuro, while solving especially my 1st one hour was very slow and then it went good. Luckily finished big quadruple in last few min with 20 sec to left. :)
Gotroch
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 4:34 PM (#14090 - in reply to #14015) (#14090) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Thanks for the nice test. I enjoyed it a lot.
But I was missing some challenging Kakuro variant in the set. Something where I have to think what should be my next step in the puzzle. Usually, during puzzle contests, I have moments, where I just staring at puzzle for several minutes before I realize what to do. This was probably my first puzzle contest here, where that didn't happen and I proceeded through all puzzles pretty straightforward.
ukonet
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 5:58 PM (#14091 - in reply to #14015) (#14091) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too few puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


rajeshk
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 7:09 PM (#14092 - in reply to #14015) (#14092) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 8:21 PM (#14093 - in reply to #14015) (#14093) Top


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Extended by 12 hours


The test is extended by 12 hours. Please check the submission page for the new end time, in your timezone.


rvarun
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-13 10:24 PM (#14095 - in reply to #14015) (#14095) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


detuned
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 3:40 AM (#14097 - in reply to #14015) (#14097) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Very skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Perhaps some of my answers reflect the inadequacies of the survey rather than the test - e.g. of course a kakuro only test is going to be skewed! I found that a couple of the puzzles I had the answer keys way before I'd finished the puzzles. Finally, the test had a strange "feel" to it - more like sudoku than kakuro. But given the password, perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised!
greenhorn
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 4:34 AM (#14098 - in reply to #14097) (#14098) Top


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detuned - 2014-01-14 3:40 AM

Perhaps some of my answers reflect the inadequacies of the survey rather than the test - e.g. of course a kakuro only test is going to be skewed! I found that a couple of the puzzles I had the answer keys way before I'd finished the puzzles. Finally, the test had a strange "feel" to it - more like sudoku than kakuro. But given the password, perhaps I shouldn't be so surprised!


Yes, you are right. It was not mentioned before, but the original theme of the contest is Kakuro with instructions borrowed from common Sudoku variants... But this name is too long, so we decided to call it just Kakuro.

Edit: Sorry Gotroch, I have not seen your comment before. There were no strange and challanging variants because of the reasons that Tom mentioned in his comment. When we thought about the variants we may use, we come up with three categories - sudoku variants, common variants (as in Antalya 2009) or new challenging ones. We realized that it is enough material to have more than one Kakuro contest. Now it is too early to promise two more competitions (maybe there will be no interest after this contest), but I just want to may you sure, that we have talked about this with Deb few months ago.

Edited by greenhorn 2014-01-14 4:41 AM
kishy72
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 12:54 PM (#14101 - in reply to #14015) (#14101) Top


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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Enjoyable Test ! I had great fun solving the test.I am glad that I did not give the test a miss.
There was certainly a thing or two that I learnt from attempting the test ,
which I would certainly remember in similar future tests.Now eagerly looking forward to solving the rest of the unfinished ones in some time.
Thanks to both the authors for creating such a wonderful set of puzzles coupled with a nice practice set!!A great didactic Kakuro test!
davep
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 4:09 PM (#14102 - in reply to #14015) (#14102) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Enjoyed the test very much, thanks to Matus and Jakub for the excellent work!
tnv
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 5:30 PM (#14103 - in reply to #14015) (#14103) Top





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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


B. Thananon
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 5:36 PM (#14104 - in reply to #14015) (#14104) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The problem I saw was the online solving didn't work, even my flash player is up to date.
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Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 8:09 PM (#14105 - in reply to #14015) (#14105) Top


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An LMI player
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 10:22 PM (#14106 - in reply to #14015) (#14106) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Kakuro — January Puzzle Test — 11th-13th January @ 2014-01-14 11:20 PM (#14108 - in reply to #14015) (#14108) Top



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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I was able to solve all puzzles/variants which I think I am comfortable with (i.e., excluding GT and AK). Mostly logical solving flow. The online interface worked well for me.

However, in some cases, the answer key was available fairly early in the solving process.
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